Testimonials - Audio Emporium

G.N.: Atoll AM300 MonoBlock Power Amps

Hi Dave,

First I unpacked and read the instructions. I had never connected monoblocks before. I followed the wiring diagram to a T and double checked. Then I crossed my fingers… and it worked.

I was immediately taken aback by how much better the system sounded. It was like a whole new system. I couldn’t believe it. I know these Atolls are good, by my previous class D amps must have been really terrible. All the usual reviewers’ aspects apply. Higher highs, lower lows, an actual soundstage, more detail and more whomp. What fun!

Thanks,

MH: Bryston Mini T Speakers

Hi Dave,

The speakers are set up and jamming!

The Bryston Mini Ts are just an absolutely excellent speaker- full stop! They cover all bases and do so with complete composure. I demo’d a bunch others- Revel, B&W, Focal & PSB for the sake of comparison, and came back to Bryston.

M H

C C: Atoll SDA300 Streaming Integrated Amp

Hi Dave,

It’s been about two months since I purchased the 300. I am very happy with it. I would like to share my thoughts in this review of sorts.

I decided to go a new direction with a streaming integrated amp. My Hegel integrated with Bluesound streamer was good, also purchased from Audio Emporium. But I wanted a more simple unit that my family could use. Hearing about Atoll electronics and after a lot of researching on my own, I went to see Dave for an audition. In fact, I went twice. The last audition convinced me to purchase SDA300.

Dave was able to answer all my questions and discuss any concerns I had. This is where a local dealer is worth so much. The level of service is top notch at Audio Emporium. The SDA300 sounds wonderful with great power and finesse. The app to run the internal streamer is great. It’s easy to use and thoughtfully done. Once again Dave has found another great company that has top build quality and good people. I look forward to doing more business with Audio Emporium.

C C

Jim P: Atoll IN200 Signature Integrated Amp

Hi Dave,

Very impressed with Atoll! Clarity is amazing!

Pushes Brystons much better than NAD separates did!

Thanks Dave

Fred T: Atohm GT-1 Speakers, Rega P3 With Elys 2 Cart

Hi Dave,

I just got the speakers fired up today. They’re absolutely fabulous! Getting to know my records again too…

Thanks as always,

Fred

Jeff N: Atoll CD100 Signature CD Player

Hi Dave,

The Atoll CD player is wonderful. I’m pulling different CDs from my collection to hear the differences. I thought my NAD was pretty good for the price but there is no comparison. The Atoll is outstanding!

Jeff N

Nate C: Atoll IN50 Signature, Bluesound Node, Kimber Toniks

Hi Dave,

I got the gear fired up Saturday night. It sounds great! Definitely a big improvement over my Yamaha. The turntable sounds better with the new amp and cables. The Bluesound is nice too. I really like everything. The amp has plenty of umfff! I’m still thinking about that Mo-Fi turntable & cartridge.

Thanks again,

Nate

Paul H: Atoll AM200 Power Amp, Bryston A2 Speakers

Hi Dave,

Jacques did a great job helping me get the products set up. The sound is truly amazing and I couldn’t be happier. Thank you again for steering me to the best products for the money as you have done in the past!

Paul H

Rich L: Atoll IN200Sig, Bryston A3s, Marantz CD60

Hi Dave,

Initial listening- the bass is deep, fast and clear. The midrange is more detailed. Treble is sweet and airy, not shrill at all!

A perfect match- the Atoll integrated with Bryston speakers. Thanks for your time and knowledge. I especially enjoyed your commentary on the China situation that you so eloquently explained in your “Latest” section.

S.J. Bryston Middle T Speakers

Hi Dave,

The Middle Ts are fantastic! The bass is refined and fast. The highs are detailed as is the imaging. They fill up the room and are very enjoyable at even low volume levels. Thanks again for your excellent service. Your knowledge and input is second to none!

S.J.

Tom W: Bryston Middle Ts, Marantz PrePro & Power Amp

Hi Dave,

I wanted to wait a while before I sent this review. It is important to test equipment for the long run.

I thought it would be difficult to have this 2-ch system match a 5-ch surround system. Boy oh boy, was I wrong. Well, absolutely, without question or doubt, not only will it match your expectations, it will exceed them. A concert from Led Z’s Celebration Day, Foo Fighters Skin and Bones, anything from John Mayer- it will beat any 5ch surround system without even breaking a sweat. The power from the Brystons is more than enough to satisfy anyone.

There are comps out there, B&W, Sonus Faber and others. However, their highs are just too high for me. You can make your own judgment, but does Robert Plant’s voice really sound tinny? Nope, it doesn’t.

Kindest Regards,

Tom W

Jim T: Bryston BP-19 Preamp

Hi Dave,

Thanks so much for the help getting the new “19.” I was able to get it installed today and it sounds GREAT- actually NO sound of its own. Tonal balance is better and the stereo image is cleaner.

I had been noticing changes to the sound as my Rotel preamp would warm up. It would sound better 20-30 minutes in. But as I listen now with BP-19, I realize the Rotel bass was heavy. The Rotel sounds much softer. Great timing for the upgrade!

Jim T

Geoff M: Bryston A2 Speakers, Bryston BR20 Preamp, Bryston 3B Cubed Power Amp, Kimber Kables

After becoming interested in high-quality hi-fi audio several months ago, I scoured the internet for reviews and purchased some decent equipment based on my research. While the quality was good, as I listened more critically, I began to realize that there was room for improvement. Rather than continue to read online reviews of people I didn’t know, I went to meet with Dave at Audio Emporium. That made all the difference. We discussed my listening preferences and my budget, and Dave recommended the Bryston electronics and speakers.

What a difference! The noise floor is almost completely silent, and the level of clarity and precision is impressive. I didn’t realize this level of quality even existed. I could not be happier with these purchases. I recommend the Bryston components highly, and I also encourage anyone to contact Dave directly to talk through your questions and needs. He really knows his stuff.

Geoff M

G M: Atoll PH-100 Phono Preamp, Ortofon Bronze 2M Cartridge

Hi Dave,

Nice, noticeable difference from the Cambridge preamp! The sound is cleaner

and there’s more space. Good recommendation. Thanks!

G M

Joe S: Magnepan MG 1.7i Speakers

Hi Dave,

Just thought I’d let you know I’m thrilled with my new upgrade to 1.7i. They have more of “everything” that I liked about LRS+. They literally disappear in the room. Outstanding stuff!

Thanks!

Joe S

Tim G: Magnepan MG 1.7i Speakers

Hi Dave,

I got them set up and in short order… They… are… stunning! Better than I could have hoped for. Gorgeous mids of course, but the bass range is so clean and tight. It’s optional to even think about a sub. The bass region, in addition to being better, is just different, in a way, hard to describe. More integrated perhaps. There’s a definite feeling of size and weight, but the imaging seems fine.

And the best part- my “blooming bass note problem” is completely gone! I may never know how much of that was speaker derived, vs room acoustics, but at least I’m spared having to play around endlessly with room improvement.

Thanks again!

Tim G

Mike Q: Axiom ADA1000 Power Amp, Rogue Metis preamp & Black Velvet Interconnects

Hi Dave,

I wanted to let you know the system sounds GREAT! The sound is exceptional, good bass, excellent mids and high end. Separation is outstanding, with definition and clarity being remarkable.

I can’t tell you just how much I value your thoughts and guidance. Thanks so much for your help over the years!

Mike Q

Richard L: Marantz CD-60 CD Player

Hi Dave,

Just hooked up the CD-60. What a tremendous improvement, even with my 45 year old Marantz amp and 30 year old speakers. There’s deep and clean bottom end, focused midrange and smooth, clear top. Couldn’t be happier! Thanks for your insight.

Stay well,

Richard L

M K: Isotek Elektra V5 Mains Conditioner

Hi Dave,

Just had to let you know… OMG! I was a bit skeptical and was just hoping for the best. But the Elektra truly has given me a new system! It’s as big an improvement as anything outside of new speakers!

Steve L: Bryston A3s and Micro A Center

Hi Dave,

These are the finest things I’ve ever purchased from you. Absolutely love them and should have done it long ago instead of trying cheaper options along the way!

Steve

Mick: Bryston A2s, Rogue Pharoah 2, Bluesound Node, Kimber 8PR

Hi Dave,

I’m extremely impressed with both the Bryston A2s and the Rogue Pharaoh! Audio Emproium was the first place I started my hi-fi journey. After testing out many speakers/amp combs at various stores, I found myself coming back to AE to try it one more time. I tried out A2s with Hegel but wanted to try a different integrated and Pharaoh blew me away.

The speakers are great for what I listen to- Boston, Rush, Led Z, etc. I found myself listening to music I typically haven’t, such as Alison Krauss, Sara Bareilles and Anne Bisson. The speakers really showcase the vocals without being “in your face” or the dominant force of the overall sound.

With these speakers I don’t need a subwoofer. The bass is extremely impressive and the Rogue is very tight with its delivery of the low end. I’m more than happy with Rogue and Bryston!

I can’t recommend you, Audio Emporium and these products enough. Anyone looking for a quality music experience should go to AE.

Mick

James A: MoFi Ultraphono & Isotek Initium

Hi Dave,

The addition of the preamp along with the Isotek power cable to the turntable made a very noticeable difference. WOW! Thank you!

I installed the preamp first to isolate the impact before upgrading the power cable on my StudioDeck. The improvement of that alone was remarkable. The power cable, like all other places I’ve applied them, brought improved overall clarity and bass response.

I truly appreciate all of the information you share as well as the advice you provide.

Next is figuring out the best option for the MC cart- a nice problem to have!

Steve B: Magnepan MG 1.7i, JL Audio E-112 Subwoofer

Hi Dave,

Up and running with Paul Simon. You were spot on with your recommendations and set up advice. I’m absolutely blown away. My only complaint- I waited too long to upgrade! Many thanks again.

Steve B

R.S. Bryston A2s, McIntosh MA5300, McIntosh MCT500

Hi Dave,

Jacques & Jim just left. They were extremely efficient and precise- all things you already know. Thanks again for your great advice and high quality products- helping to transform our home musically. The seamless installation was amazing!

R.S.

John N: Bryston Preamp & Amp

Hi Dave,

Our sound system is fantastic! You made it happen when you acquired the Bryston BP26. Of course we had to purchase the Bryston 2.5B/3 amp, as you probably expected. The stereo system of our dreams is finally here. Much thanks!

In gratitude…

Jay H: Bryston Mini T Speakers

Hi Dave,

I’m completely floored as to how good the Mini T’s sound in my listening room and how seamless they integrated to my system. Thanks for your patience and it was a pleasure doing business with you. These are EXACTLY the speakers I’ve been searching for!

Jay H

Chris C: Bryston A1, Hegel H190, Isotek Polaris, Bluesound Node, Kimber Kable

Hi Dave,

My new system is always impressing. I listen to it daily.

I know I have found my sonic character with the gear I bought. From the beginning many months ago I was seeking a shop that shared my passion for the audiophile sound. I was looking and found your shop online. Good thing I did.

After reading virtually all that your website provided, I knew you were serious. There is so much info on your website. Very educational.

I’m the type of person who digs in to the data and specs. I did just that on the integrated amps and speakers. I really like the hunt for new gear.

Bryston speakers were not on my radar. After discussing my listening habits as a drummer, you pointed them to me. I’m so glad you did. I’m still so amazed with my A1s. They are so precise and defined. I made the right decision to go with A1.

The Hegel H190 was also not on my radar. After hearing it paired with the A1, I knew it was for me. The grip on the speakers is incredible. This is an integrated with serious technology!

The Kimber 8PR and Isotek Polaris tie it all together. I look forward to what the future brings for me in this audio hobby. Audio Emporium will have my business. Thank you Dave for everything!

Chris C

SJ: Bluesound Node X, Kimber Hero Interconnect

Hi Dave,

Sounds amazing! Your knowledge is golden. My stereo has improved 1000 percent from your advice. Many thanks!

Kevin C: McIntosh MA352 Integrated Amp

Hi Dave,

I wanted to let you know that the MA352 has been exquisite! I can hear how much cleaner it sounds with complex music. It’s also been an enjoyable upgrade for movies. There’s a tightness to the bass that wasn’t there before and it’s easier to notice background details during quieter parts..

Kevin C

T P: Kimber Carbon Speaker Cables

Hi Dave,

I was listening to some CDs recorded in the 70s and 80s. Everything sounds fresh and modern. Like it was just recorded yesterday. You would never know that the music and speakers were decades old. Everything that is recorded on the discs, the cables do a phenomenal job getting it from the Hegel to the speakers. Very clear and solid sound. As usual, another great recommendation from you!

Dan S: Isotek Polaris

Hi Dave,

I came through last weekend and picked up an Isotek Polaris power conditioner.

I just wanted to let you know how impressed I am by it! I’m just getting into the hi-fi world and I was skeptical on power conditioners and cables. The difference was immediate and obvious. Consider me a believer now.

I’ll never Not have one in my system from now on!

Dan S

Andy C: Marantz Model 30 Integrated Amp

Hi Dave,

The Model 30 is an absolute treat! I’ve never heard an amp that sounds as it does. It’s very musical, yet has astonishing articulation.

I will come up for the Kimber 8 PAIR speaker cables. I like the 8 PR because it doesn’t throw away amplifier damping and its series inductance is as low as it gets and lets the highs propagate as well as any cable I can imagine. I could certainly demonstrate that attribute with my 2-ohm Strathearns and electrostats that have a near zero impedance as the frequency goes up.

Thanks again for the amp!

Andy

Andy M: MoFi UltraDeck With Master Tracker Cartridge & Super Heavyweight

Hi Dave,

MY GOD IN HEAVEN, what a HUGE difference! I spent WAY more money than I wanted to but I think it is worth it!

After enjoying vinyl for years I sold my Rega setup. I regretted it, but it was necessary at the time. FF ten years and I got the bug again.

I secured a vintage table and got an Ortofon Bronze from you. I got 75% of the way “there” with this setup and thought ‘good enough.’ As luck would have it, the turntable started experiencing mechanical issues. I decided to spend more than I had budgeted and went all in on the UltraDeck and MasterTracker. I bought the Super Heavyweight too.

Dave, you and I have known each other for over 25 years and I can honestly tell you that in all these years, I have never experienced such a radical improvement. Everything improved, bass, sweetness, fullness, quietness between passages, older records sounded better than I remember. I literally could gush about this for several more paragraphs, but I will say that anyone interested in upgrading their vinyl system would be well served with a MoFi turntable. Thanks again, I’m extremely happy!

Andy M

Paul R: McIntosh MA352, Klipsch LaScalas, Isotek Aquarius

Hi Dave,

I called Audio Emporium a few months ago to inquire about a Mac preamp. After a few questions from Dave I decided to come down and look at the MA252 and MA352 integrated amps.

The sound was amazing, especially considering they were playing through Klipsch LaScalas. After taking my MA352 home I just couldn’t get the LaScalas out of my mind. Jacques hooked up my pair yesterday. The combination looks great and sounds better!

Thanks!

Paul R

MR: Bryston 7B Cubed MonoBlock Power Amps/Kimber Carbon Speaker Wire

Hi Dave,

While waiting for the Bryston monoblocks we installed the Kimber Carbon speaker cables to our older Bryston 4B/SST2. Just as you predicted, we enjoyed fuller and more balanced sound, with increased detail. In fact, the Carbons made such an improvement in the quality of sound that we were starting to worry that purchasing the Bryston monoblocks might have been unnecessary!

Well, we shouldn’t have worried. Once we installed the 7s in our system, our concerns quickly disappeared. We immediately noticed that the music now fills our room, even at low volumes. Reproduction of dynamics is exceptional! Acoustic recordings have unrestrained musicality with precise bass. We can listen for hours on a Sunday afternoon without fatigue.

As an added bonus, the Bryston monoblocks are an excellent complement to our Magnepan speakers. If anyone asks what’s the best amp to use with Magnepan, you can tell them at least one of your customers thinks the Bryston amps are the perfect pairing. I never knew what a difference power amps could make in a system!

Thanks Dave! Doing business with you is always a positive experience and following your advice has brought countless hours of listening pleasure to our family.

DF: Klipsch Cornwalls & Mytek Liberty 2 DAC

Hi Dave,

Quick update- I LOVE the Cornwalls and the Liberty 2 DAC! I’m getting abundant fun out of them! Thanks again for having Jacques deliver them. It really helped and as always he is the consummate pro- much appreciated.

Richard K: In The Beginning

Hi Dave,

I just finished reading your “In The Beginning” entry on your website. It was thoroughly entertaining and a walk down memory lane. It is a major composition, well worth the labor of writing. I am only writing this because I am one of thousands of customers who appreciates your contribution to the stereo tradition in SE Wisconsin.

I have been only a minor player in your list of satisfied customers. Thank you for being a major influence in so many stereo lives!

Richard

Kevin C: McIntosh XR100 Speakers

Hi Dave,

We bought a pair of Mac XR100 speakers from you a few months ago. I just wanted to let you know that they have been phenomenal! They sound great!

Kevin

John C: Marantz SACD-30n Silver Disc Player & Kimber Hero

Hi Dave,

I wanted to let you know that I am thoroughly impressed with the sound quality of the Marantz SACD30n and Kimber Hero I purchased from Audio Emporium today. I’ve always loved CDs but never knew they actually contained so much detail until I played them on the Marantz. CDs now sound significantly better than they did in the high quality transport and outboard DAC I was using. The sonic separation of each instrument and vocals is breathtaking. I’ve never heard so much texture, dynamic range, realistic imaging and depth and breadth of soundstage. Thanks!

Kaz: Bryston A3 Speakers

Hi Dave,

It is truly impossible for me to overstate how wonderful Dave/Audio Emporium is. I bought my first pair of nice speakers (Polk 7) from Dave in the 80’s- they still sound great. Of course I have moved up. I am now 60 and just upgraded to Brystons, which sound amazing!

My receivers, preamps, power amps, CD players and turntables throughout the decades have all been purchased from Audio Emporium. They all perform beautifully and last.

Every once in a while I’ll call Dave and ask what I should get to upgrade. I then take his advice. He doesn’t sell unnecessary flashing lights, just great sounding equipment that is built very well. I trust Dave as his integrity has been proven to me for 40 years. He recently set up a now very happy friend of mine with speakers and a CD player.

The show room is wondrous! Stop in and you’ll find Dave to be kind and knowledgeable. Audio Emporium will improve your listening experience for years to come.

Kaz

(professional sax player)

Chad M: Kimber Kable

Hi Dave,

I have been an audiophile for about 20 years. I can say without any hesitation that Dave and his team at Audio Emporium offer the best advice and customer service in the business. Regardless of your budget, Dave will have something that will work and sound great. Dave and Jacques are always very helpful and up to speed on what is the latest and greatest in high fidelity audio. I cannot recommend them highly enough.

The most important cable in an audio system starts at the wall. Yes, the power cable! A power cable is the most discussed and the most argued. The choice of which cable is determined by how quiet it can make the system, without affecting the sound. This must be assisted by a power conditioner and even the wall outlet. A reputable power cable and isolation solution are critical to the sonic performance.

As a system is built there will be cables between components. Again, a cable isn’t just a cable. They all have different levels of sonic performance. If you somehow believe that any cable works, then I would recommend a listening lesson. This is easier for musicians and audiophile veterans. There are certain details to listen for including intonation, balance, clarity and soundstage.

The same is true regarding speaker cables. A cable will influence how a speaker performs and sounds.

As with all these decisions Dave & Jacques can guide you to make the best decision for the sound and budget. I am a big believer in Kimber Kable- which offers great sounding cables with reasonable pricing and great quality. Kimber has a cost effective cable for every level of system.

Enjoy!

Chad M

Scott V: Ortofon Quintet S Moving Coil Cart

Hi Dave,

It’s amazing to me how much of a difference this Ortofon cartridge made in sound quality. Everything seems to sound so much more realistic. Dynamic range and soundstage are also significantly impacted. It makes sense that the origin of the music, the very first component in the sound reproduction chain, is going to make a big difference in sound quality.

This is sound quality like I’ve not heard before. Thanks so much for the recommendation. Sounds terrific!

Scott

Chuck S: Mytek Liberty 2

Hi Dave,

The Liberty 2 is the best addition to my system that I have made! It has brought a refinement to the Fortes. Quiet, smooth, more precise and analog like.

All the best!

Chuck

JL: Mytek Liberty 2, Amphion Argon Ones

Hi Dave,
I love the pair of Amphion Argon 1 speakers I purchased from you the other day. I use them as monitors on my office desk with my Hegel H120. The sound quality is amazingly open and transparent, 3-dimensional and incredibly detailed. These Amphions are a big step up from my B&W’s. This is near field listening at its best!

The Mytek Liberty 2 DAC I purchased from you was definitely worth waiting for. It provides an incredibly natural and uncolored sound with an extremely quiet background. It has a very high build quality with balanced outputs and provides full MQA decoding. Naysayers of MQA should listen to Liberty 2 in a great music system and stream their favorite music off Tidal Masters, and then compare the same music in standard mode. The sound improvement from MQA is striking!

Best Regards,

J L

G A: Isotek Polaris Mains Conditioner

Hi Dave,

Holy Sh.. Dave! It’s like I’ve been wearing the wrong prescription glasses and someone just gave me the correct ones. Let’s just say, I’m a believer now! Needless to say I’ll be back in for a few more cables this week.

G A

M R: Magnepan MG 20.7s

Hi Dave,

Jacques got us up and running with the new 20.7s. Our first impression is that we LOVE these speakers! They fill the room and do everything the 1.7s do, but better. Vince Guaraldi is playing the piano in our living room. Apparently Adele stopped by to sing a few songs for us too! Ray Brown’s stand up bass is better than we’ve ever heard on the many Oscar Peterson Trio albums

All of our well known favorite recordings have better bass-treble balance than before. Being long time Maggie owners, we immediately notice that the 20.7s bring out the lower registers more than the other Maggies we’ve enjoyed so much. It is not a booming, slamming bass, but more of a balanced lower register that compliments the music and doesn’t overwhelm it.

Jacques was pleasant, efficient and professional when setting up the speakers for us. We will remember his helpful visit during our frequent listening sessions.

Thank you again, for your patience and all of your invaluable advice during this, our most recent AE purchase. We will be back to Audio Emporium for more purchases soon.

Thank you!

M R

Ian N: MoFi UltraDeck+

Hi Dave,

Just put on the Brubeck Take 5…and THANK YOU!

It is exponentially better than the Linn LP-12 I have. I hear more than I’ve ever heard!

Next, speakers.

Ian

David P: Kimber Hero Interconnect Cables

Hi Dave,

I listened to some of my favorite tracks for about ten hours after installing the Hero interconnects.

My first impression was that there was an added dimensionality to the music. Some tracks made me think I was listening to Dolby Digital Surround. I also heard added smoothness but with additional detail. I welcome this extra warmth or sweetness in my system.

My bass became more emphasized to the point where some tracks sounded too fat for my taste. To correct this, I reduced the volume level of my subs and lowered the crossover point from

80 to 60Hz. Now I’m listening to bass HEAVEN. Now I have fast and detailed bass with a more musical tone.

I’m amazed at how these cables have improved my overall listening experience. Yes, I’m a true cable believer now and consider cables as a system component.

Regards,

David P

David P: Isotek Premier Power Cables

Hi Dave,

Thanks for selling these cables to me yesterday. I placed one on my streamer and one on the Marantz AV8005. I’m now hearing micro details which makes for a more musical and immersive experience. It’s definitely a synergy with these devices connected in balanced configuration. I’m planning to upgrade more cables in the future!

Regards,

David P

Barry D: Isotek Polaris

Hi Dave,

A satisfied customer story…

I bought an Isotek Polaris from your store. Put it in the system and concluded things sounded a little better. It was a worthwhile purchase.

Several weeks ago my tube amp died. I moved a 1990s CJ solid state amp into my main system. This amp has a transformer hum that, sans music, is loud enough to hear across a room. Connected to Polaris, the CJ amp was dead silent. I had to literally press my ear to the chassis to hear anything. To put this into context, everything else I had done to abate the hum had been useless, including sending the amp to CJ.

Regards,

Barry

Tim B: Magnepan MG 1.7i

Hi Dave,

I’ve been an audiophile for nearly 40 years. In that time I’ve owned a considerable number of products and have had dealings with many stores. At no time have I ever been treated so well with knowledge, service and integrity. This was my first purchase from Dave and it will certainly not be my last! Very highly recommended!

Tim B

B.E.: Bryston Middle T Speakers

Hi Dave,

The Middles sound great! I can really hear an improvement, especially in guitar note and on drum work (cymbals, high hat). I am glad I got them! Thank you for your input, your listening, your great web site and your honesty.

John D: Bryston Middle T Speakers

Hi Dave,

I listened to the Middle T’s for a couple hours when I got back today and they sound absolutely amazing in my room! I couldn’t be happier with these and could see myself keeping these for 15-20 years, unless I upgrade to the Model Ts before then! Thanks again for all your help and I’ll recommend you to anyone that asks me about home audio.

John D

Brian S: Bryston 4B Power Amp

Hi Dave,

As the Brits might say, the amp is a sterling piece of kit. It was a pleasure to absorb the sound.

The first thing that hit me was the much more potent bass and definition of the lower register. It was punchy, dynamic, rich, full, vibrant, robust and very tight and controlled.

The Bryston offered up a very noticeable improvement in realism and acoustical space with the small details and nuances snapping into place. The veils disappeared and distortion was undetectable.

The midrange is very smooth and articulate, linear, faultless with no harshness. Overall the music sounded liquid, having character, presence, clarity and brought me into the recording space.

It’s almost a live 3D presentation. Female vocals in particular sounded both beautiful and haunting.

I will now be a forever believer in Bryston. Next up for me is a Bryston preamp!

Thanks again,

Brian S

Byron P: Marantz AV-7706, Marantz MM-7055, NAD M-28

Good Afternoon Dave,

What a great pleasure working with such knowledgeable, experienced people in the high tech audio world. I want to thank you and Jacques for all of your help and guidance. You completely understood what I was looking for and your honest, no pressure approach was so greatly appreciated. My system has never sounded so crisp, clear and so full of depth. Whether I am listening to music or watching a movie, the experience is very immersing. It has definitely been great working with you. Audio Emporium is by far the best audio store!

Thank you,

Byron

Doug N: Marantz SA-10, McIntosh MVP-901

Hi Dave,

Just want to comment on the two pieces of gear that I took delivery of recently. The Marantz SA-10 plays SACD’s and CD’s better than any other player I have ever owned. I’ve owned many high end disc players (including Accuphase). It is amazing the ability the SA-10 has to play SACD and CD discs to perfection. Also, the SA10’s design and build quality is a work of art.

The McIntosh MVP-901 Blu-ray/Universal player takes care of all the other silver disc formats for me, and exceptionally so. My collections of video DVD’s, DVD-A’s, Blu-rays and music only Blu-rays are all played wonderfully. The 901 cues discs up very fast too, no sluggishness like early generation universal players. A nice surprise is that the MVP-901 also decodes HDCD! I don’t think that McIntosh has any competition in the market place to compete with this player. It is in a class by itself, no doubt. I am very happy to have made this purchase.

Doug N

J L: Isotek Aquarius, Isotek Syncro Uni, Isotek Premier Cables

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the detailed explanation of the importance of mains conditioning for achieving the best sounding music. I had hoped the Isotek products would improve my already great sounding system, and YES, they did prove impressive.

The 3-D depth and image of the soundstage noticeably increased on LPs, CDs and MQA streaming. The music now is more immediate and pure, with increased detail on all instruments and vocals. The bass became far more detailed. All background noise is now 100% absent without any audible hiss or hum whatsoever.

After listening for an hour or so, I plugged all my components directly back into the wall outlet using the generic black cords. The difference in sound quality is night and day. I then went back to using the Isotek system. That exercise confirmed I made a great purchase.

Those who say mains conditioning is a waste of money never used this Isotek arrangement!

Best Regards,

John L: Ortofon Quintet Black Cartridge, Kimber Carbon Speaker Cables

Hi Dave,

I’ve been thoroughly enjoying the new Ortofon Quintet Black S low output MC cart that Jacques was kind enough to install for me in my MoFi UltraDeck turntable. I figured it would be a step up from the high output MM cart I was using, but I had no clue just how much better the Black S was until I listened to it for a week now. I am in awe of the improved richness of sound, instrument and vocal detail, increased dynamic range, and smooth textures. I’m now hearing detailed nuances that seemed previously invisible to my ears.

Then I hooked up the new Kimber Carbon 8 speaker cables today. They elevated the listening quality to a whole other level. Even the most detailed passages are now more articulate and open sounding. The Ortofon and Kimber Kables brought my entire system performance up to a higher level.

I chuckle when I read that premium cables don’t make a difference… they most certainly do!

Regards,

John L

Doug N: Falcons Ram 20, McIntosh and Marantz SA-10

Dave,

Thought you may enjoy seeing this photo of the system constructed with your help, the frosting on the cake being the Falcons. Yesterday I listened to and watched the Led Zeppelin DVD Celebration Day. I told my wife that through the combination of the Mac tubes and the Falcon’s it was the best sound I had ever heard from that disc. Pretty impressive.

Doug

Tim P: Marantz SACD30n Disc Player

Hi Dave,

Just wanted to tell you what a great piece the Marantz is. It took less than ten minutes to set up and get running. Being a classic/prog rock guy, I have a lot of CD’s from the 70’s and have been collecting ever since. Let me tell you that the improvement in sound over my previous CD player was immediately noticeable. Old recordings sounded new and modern. It motivated me to go out and purchase a few more CDs. As usual, another fantastic recommendation from Audio Emporium. You never steer me wrong!

Thanks, Tim

Brian B: Zorber Panels

Hi Dave,

I wanted to thank you for your recommendation for the Zorber panels. I was expecting some acoustic improvements n my listening room but the Zorber panels were MUCH better than I had anticipated!! Acoustic instruments like the piano and the muted trumpet sound so much more natural now. The Zorbers are taking an edge off of harsh backwall reflections as well. While listening to Renee Olstead’s “Someone To Watch Over Me,” my Maggies were producing a holographic vocal image like I had NEVER been able to hear before, WOW!! The Zorbers have got to be the best $250 audio upgrade available on the market! Thank you again!

Brian B

G R: Talk About A Great Dealer

Hey Dave, customers and future ones,

Milwaukee’s best audio go to. Spent over $10k there in the last 3 years. First was speakers, then a fantastic Hegel H390 integrated last year. I didn’t dial in the system immediately because I was moving soon. Went from a 24’ sq listening room to a 12×18 room. A hundred hours on the Internet researching room treatments left me totally confused. Where do I go for advice?

Tried Dave for suggestions and he offered to help. Remember, this is a dealer in business selling to make a living. Turns out that he is just as committed in his customers getting the best out of their gear. After some emails and a drawing of my room he recommended what I needed. I spent two weeks of trying all kinds of treatment locations and countless times moving my speakers in all directions. I finally found the perfect setup.

My advice, take your time. It’s like wine tasting. After a while they all taste the same. After a while moving things around it’s hard to notice much difference. Plus your mood changes as frustration sets in. So do a little every day. A huge Thank You to Dave. My only regret is that at 66 years old I have all the gear that I will need.

G R

Ed R: Magnepan MG 1.7i, NAD C-388, Bluesound Node 2i, Kimber 8 PR

Hi Dave,

I wanted to get back to you as how pleased I am with the audio equipment I purchased from you. What an improvement in the naturalness and quality of the sound I am hearing! I know the speakers need to break in as do the electronics, but it is such a noticeable improvement already! I am hearing sounds on recordings I never did before. Words during vocals which I couldn’t make out are now intelligible, and instruments have punch and identity. Thanks!

Kyle N: Magnepan MG .7 Speakers

Hi Dave,

They sound phenomenal! I could not be happier with the purchase. Not sure how I ever lived without them!!! Thanks again for all of your help and the great service!

Take care,
Kyle

Steve W: Magnepan MG .7s, Bluesound Node 2i & Audiolab 6000A

Hi Dave,

I just want you to know how happy we are with the Magnepans. It’s a night and day difference – but you knew that.

The Bluesound set up was easy. The Audiolab amp is more than adequate. It’s quite an ingenious design. The sound here is a bit more lively than in your studio. Our living room has hard surfaces. We are quite happy to hear new musical details.

Thank you for your recommendation and excellent service.

Steve

Bob P: Kimber Interconnect & Speaker Cables

Dave,
You highly recommended that I replace all of my interconnects and speaker cables to get the optimal performance out of my new system. I needed about $150 of speaker cable and $200 in interconnects. I made the purchase and can’t believe the incredible improvement in overall sound! Easily a 30-40% system improvement. No ground hum at all, and superior definition and clarity of all frequencies and instruments. The purchase was worth it several times over. Thanks!

Bob

JSCH: MoFi UltraDeck+M Turntable/Cart & UltraPhono

Dave:

Thanks to Jacques for setting up my new MoFi turntable. I am totally amazed at how quiet this phono system is. There is no discernible hum, hiss or resonance whatsoever. I even borrowed my neighbor’s stethoscope and found the noise to be inaudible. The MasterTracker cartridge tracks flawlessly and sounds wonderful, even on 50+ year old vinyl. It’s extremely detailed and smooth sounding. This is pure analog sound at its best and gives new life to my record collection.

Steve K: McIntosh MC-312 Power Amp

HI Dave,

The Mac is absolutely incredibly, amazing! While my MC2205 was better than any of the amps I previously owned, the new MC312 is just totally off the charts. The soundstage is like I have never heard before… clarity of each instrument is totally clear. It even makes music I’m not a huge fan of sound good.

Take care! Steve K

Ray M: Kimber Carbon Interconnect Cables

Hi Dave,

I have listened to the Kimber Carbons vs standard interconnect cables. The standard cables have powerful bass- in your face- very evident, to the slight detriment of the overall cohesiveness of of the piece. Also, there were other instruments played in short bursts marking the tempo, which sounded brittle, almost screechy.

With Kimber Carbons the bass was still there but no longer as prevalent. The brittle sound is gone. The overall sound is extremely smooth, transparent, clear. All instruments are working as a team thereby enhancing the musicians’ rendition of the piece.

RM: Marantz SA-Ruby SACD/CD Player

Hi Dave,

I wanted to let you know that I hooked up the SA-Ruby. In the small amount of time that I have listened to it, it has me amazed and flabbergasted. I debated for some time about such a big expenditure and it might end up being the best money I’ve spent in my audio system. WOW! What a difference with the prior sound.

I hooked up the Ruby two ways, analog using the Ruby’s DAC, and digitally using the Parasound DAC. The difference in sound quality is absolutely, completely like night and day. I am literally speechless.

Thanks! RM

Guy R: Bryston A2 Speakers, Emotiva XPA2G3 Power Amp

Hi Dave,

After almost two years I really love the setup! The Bryston A2’s are fantastic! They sound so much better than my old Infinity Kappa 8’s.

The Emotiva amp has more than enough power, plus you can’t fry an egg on it like my old Adcom amp.

I’m shocked the Brystons still seem to be a hidden treasure. Thank you so much for what you did for me.

MK: Bryston A3 Speakers

I just wanted to let you know how unbelievable my Bryston A3 towers are!
Suspension of disbelief, Absolutely! My speakers disappear during listening sessions. As the volume increases, the sound just gets better, more full.
I’m so happy that I stepped into the Brystons!
I cannot sing their praises enough.
Thank you for such a great “entry” level speaker! There is nothing missing in the music during playback. When comparing these to another brand, the difference in the Brystons’ ability to produce bass and the right treble is unbelievable.

J G: Bluesound Node 2i

Hi Dave,

Wow! MQA! All my favorite albums sound like new again!
Incredible, really incredible!
You know that feeling you get when you hear a piece of music
that blows you away? It’s that good!

Chet G: Isotek Polaris & Initium Cables

Hi Dave, I used to tell my friends that I was a recovering audiophile, but the truth is that you never really do. When you listen to your favorite music on great equipment, there is a visceral connection that is almost magical. I had forgotten how much I missed the hi-fi experience and decided to look around at the current audio landscape. This search led me to Dave at Audio Emporium. I noticed that the product lines they represent are all cut from the same cloth. They only carry; high performance for the money, no nonsense, well engineered gear. So it was in that spirit that I purchased the Isotek Polaris and a pair of Initium power cables. I did this despite the robust on-line debate about the importance (or lack thereof) of cables, cords, power conditioners and the like. Undeterred, I swapped out the existing power cords and plugged everything into the Polaris. I was hoping for a somewhat positive, discernible improvement. All I can say is wow! The change is not subtle. Quite simply, there is a vast improvement in the overall resolution of my system. I’m thrilled by the results. If you are planning on investing your hard earned money into quality audio gear, its safe to say that this is a mandatory step. This was a great recommendation!

Thanks Dave, Chet

Tim W: Isotek Polaris & Kimber Carbon Speaker Cables

Hi Dave, Wow, the Isotek conditioning equipment and Kimber Kable wires made an incredible difference in sound quality! The center channel is now remarkably clear with the Carbon 8 wiring.
Thanks for your suggestions! Tim

Brent M: Magnepan LRS Speakers

Hi Dave, I wanted to thank you for the demo of the Magnepan LRS speakers this morning. It was a pleasure to meet you! I’m so impressed with the sound quality and price point of this pair. I would have sprung for the .7’s if not for trying to keep the budget at a reasonable level for a first time planar purchase. You can rest assured I will be back to shop for more equipment and upgrades!
Thanks again, Brent

Robert P: McIntosh MT-2 Turntable With Ortofon Cadenza Bronze MC Cartridge

Hi Dave, Oh my goodness! Thank you for getting me through the process of making my system so much better. The McIntosh 2T and the Ortofon cartridge is simply breath taking! I get to listen to “new” music so delicately and clearly presented that I am hearing a vast amount of inner detail. Jacques and Glenn did a wonderful job of installing the turntable and gave the entire system a good check up. Thank you Audio Emporium for providing me with this blissful opportunity. Next is to acquire the Isotek mains conditioner! Bob

Carlos R: Rogue Cronus Magnum 3 Integrated Amp

HI Dave, The amp sounds AMAZING! Especially, what a soundstage! Thanks again! Carlos

Steve K: McIntosh MC-312 Power Amp

HI Dave,

Take care! Steve K

RM: Marantz SA-Ruby SACD/CD Player

Hi Dave,

Thanks! RM

MK: Bryston A3 Speakers

B.H: Bryston A2 Speakers

Hi Dave,

I read your March newsletter and agree with everything you wrote about my new A2 speakers. They are sounding better with each passing day. Thanks again for the great advice!

Chet G: Isotek Polaris & Initium Cables

Thanks Dave, Chet

JL: Isotek Polaris, Bluesound Node 2i, Mytek Liberty, NAD C328, Mogami Interconnects

Hi Dave, I’m glad I read your “ABC’s” on the basic and cost effective steps to improving the sound quality of audio systems. I have to say I bought the Isotek Polaris mains conditioner with Initium cables for my NAD integrated amp, Bluesound Node 2i, Mytek Liberty DAC and CD transport from you with some reluctance, but I’m now glad I did it. It seems audio forums these days are filled with contentious posts about people saying power conditioners are nothing but snake oil but I needed to find out firsthand for myself. I have to wonder how many of those posters actually tried a good one to see for themselves. Probably few if any.

There is no question I have AC line noise, we all do. The only question I had was if I filtered it out would I actually hear significant sound quality improvement. I’m always amazed listening to people who spend many thousands of dollars on high end audio equipment with next-to-nothing distortion and incredibly low signal-to-noise ratios but then feed those components with dirty electrical power that they will hear anyway. It makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

Anyways, the sound quality improvement was quite dramatic with the Polaris and Initiums. Before, it seemed I was listening to just the speakers and hearing music in 2D, but the music now has an added 3D dimension with front-to-back depth. The bass is also tighter, clarity has increased and vocals seem to come out in front of the soundstage.

Another simple upgrade that made significant improvement for me was to replace all standard RCA and Toslink interconnects with Mogami RCA-RCA digital coaxial interconnects. That made a profound improvement in bass and high end definition. Again, many people say that high quality cables don’t make a bit of sound improvement but I beg to differ.

Thanks for the good advice. These were indeed simple and cost effective upgrades that made a significant improvement in listening pleasure for me.

Best Regards, JL

Brent M: Magnepan LRS Speakers

Robert P: McIntosh MT-2 Turntable With Ortofon Cadenza Bronze MC Cartridge

Carlos R: Rogue Cronus Magnum 3 Integrated Amp

HI Dave, The amp sounds AMAZING! Especially, what a soundstage! Thanks again! Carlos

Frank R: NAD Bluesound Node 2i

Hi Dave,

I just wanted to say thanks for convincing me to purchase the Bluesound Node 2i! I absolutely love it! MQA albums in particular sound incredible!

Brent S: McIntosh C52, MC462, Isotek Aquarius, GoldenEar Super Sub XXL

Dave,

Thank you sooo much! This thing sounds better than my wildest dreams. Wow! You steered me right. Your guys are wonderful. Everything is A Plus!

You know sometimes you buy something and it’s just OK- doesn’t meet expectations. Not this. Just FABULOUS!

We’re gonna do more business. Thanks again. B

Mark R: Isotek Aquarius, Bluesound Node 2, Mytek, Liberty, Bryston BP17 Cubed Preamp, Bryston 4B Cubed Power Amp, Magnepan MG 1.7i Speakers

Hi Dave, I wanted to drop you a note to say how much we are enjoying our new stereo system. Thank you for all of your advice and suggestions during our decision-making process. With your help we are convinced that we purchased the right system for our needs.
The service that you provide is priceless! Thanks for providing such value-added service. Everything that your team does inspires loyalty from your customers.

Gratefully, Mark

Gary K: Isotek Polaris Mains Conditioner

Dave,
Just inserted the Polaris in my stereo system this morning. Incredible!
Quiet background with incredible detail and separation. Roberta Flack never sounded so good! My sincere thanks!

Gary

Clarence B: Service

Hi Dave,
I promised to let you know how my sound system was working after you and your staff solved an elusive problem that had developed. Because the problem developed gradually over time and wasn’t necessarily constant, it indeed was difficult to explain and, as you found out, difficult to hunt down. In the last few weeks I’ve spent more time listening to music than I have in the last year. From Hendrix to Heifetz, from the intertwining melodies of CSNY to the enchanting notes o Debbusy’s Arabesque coming from Maria Graf’s harp, and across the entire range of Kodo’s drums, this sound system again delivers a quality of sound that continually amazes me and impresses anybody who visits and takes a moment to enjoy music.

Thanks to you, Jacques & Glenn for your patience in listening to my concerns and sticking with me to get the problem properly resolved. Especially at a time of online deals and the big box store approach of untrained and impersonal employees, Audio Emporium is a treasure!

Gary K: Mytek Liberty DAC

Hi Dave, Just hooked up the Liberty. Very, very nice, open & honest sound!

Thanks you! Gary

Paul B: Bluesound Node 2 & Mytek Liberty DAC

Hi Dave,

Just thought I’d let you know that I have the Bluesound Node 2 and Mytek Liberty using the balanced connectors and have never heard the system sound so good! I’m not sure of the right technical terms, but the highs (cymbals and snares) are nicely present and realistic. The dynamic range (loud to soft) seems greater. And the overall musicality is just nicer to listen to.

Nice updates. Glad to have them. Thanks to Jacques for the setup help!

Paul

Rob E: Rega Elys 2 Cartridge

Hi Dave,
Thank you so much for the wonderful new gear- it’s great to have my turntable once again in working order. And a huge thank you for sending Jacques out to correct my errors. That was above and beyond and is much appreciated!

Rohan S: Mytek Liberty, Bluesound Node 2, Emotiva Amp

Hi Dave,
I just wanted to say thanks for the advice on helping me improve my system! Now that I’m running MQA, balanced, and a big power amp, my system sounds so much better. I’m very happy with the performance. It’s much better than I ever thought I’d be able to get.

Dan R: Rogue Sphinx V2 Integrated Amp

Hi Dave,

Holly Cole has never sounded as good as through the Sphinx with my elderly speakers.
Thanks again for the recommendation!

Greg N: Isotek Aquarius & Bluesound Node 2

Hi Dave,
If I could pretend to be an audio reviewer for moment, I would say there is much improved separation between instruments, especially on the bass end of the spectrum. More dynamic range and an improved sound stage. I can hear sounds I didn’t know existed on known tracks. And the idea of controlling everything wirelessly from my iPad is very appealing. Super satisfied! You made some great recommendations. Thanks!

Ramon H: Isotek Mains Conditioner with Premier Power Cables

Hi Dave,

First listening impressions are excellent. Bass is indeed tight. Specific image and instrument location are quite noticeable. System detail, especially when listening for the specific sound of individual instruments is quite remarkable.
Unfortunately, I can very clearly determine the shortcomings of my aging CD player quite well, or should I say, badly?! So far so good. I am please with this investment. Thanks for your help and guidance. It’s been a pleasure to do business with you.

Mike H: Bluesound Node 2

Hi Dave,

Marcia and I absolutely love the Node 2! It’s the best $500 we ever spent. Thanks so much for the great advice.

We feel having the ability to play MQA is critical.

Testimonial Martin G: GoldenEar SuperSub XXL & X, Bryston Mini T’s, Hegel H360

I wanted to drop you a line and let you know that everything is working very well at our house! That little SuperSub X made a significant, positive impact to our small living room system! I replaced a 10″ Sunfire sub and the amount & quality of bass is amazing. It’s not quite as deep and tight as the XXL (in bigger system) but the X is a smidge smaller than the unit it replaced, so the wife is happy.
The garage system is still amazing and movies in our theater with the SuperSub XXL really adds to the suspension of disbelief! I chatted with Glenn. He was very helpful and I could tell he is passionate about what he does. You have great people working for you. Thanks you for all your help and I hope you have a blessed and prosperous Christmas season!

Allen G: Marantz SA11S3 SACD/CD Player

Hi Dave,
The Marantz is pretty awesome! Thanks for the recommendation. Listening to the Barrenboim Polaski CSO excerpts from the Ring Cycle now. This is definitely closer to the real concert sound than what I had. And as you suggested, my few SACDs do sound really awesome! So I thought I’d drop you a note and say thanks.
Allen

Larry W: Bryston Middle T Speakers

Hello Dave! I received delivery of the Bryston Middle T Speakers one week ago. Glenn and Jacques were helpful, efficient and professional. I couldn’t be happier. My older A-3’s were splendid but the new speakers are a major improvement (20% improvement in bass, 10% improvement in treble, and a considerable improvement in midrange). Even after a week, the speakers seem to be “opening up.”
The speakers handle all source material in a neutral, smooth and uncolored way. Just amazing! And thanks again!

Mike W: Bryston 5B-SST 5 Channel Amplifier

In 2000 I bought a Bryston 5B from you with number of other components in a full surround system. The amplifier quit putting out sound, 16 years after I bought it. I had lost the receipt but when I called, you told me it had a 20 year warranty. I have moved and decided to send it directly to Bryston’s service center. I’m just letting you know that I had it back, repaired, at no charge, within two weeks! They honored the repair from the date code. I didn’t even know there was a date code. I’m a very happy Bryston owner. Please let your other customers know that Bryston is a first class outfit.

Carl F: Rogue Sphinx Integrated Amp, $1400

First of all wishing you and your family and the team at Audio Emporium the best this thanksgiving. So my turn to give thanks to you.

It has been a few weeks since you went above and beyond in customer service opening the store on a Sunday morning that I might purchase the Rogue Sphinx. I just love it! I listen to music a lot to begin with, but now it is a daily revelation especially vinyl. The phono section of this integrated is just fantastic. I am hearing things that I previously thought un-listenable – sounded amazing. I have yet to play the big orchestral works of Beethoven or Bruckner much less my fave Ravel… we shall see how they sound.

Again, thank you!

Ron P: Bryston Mini T speakers

Your assessment of them was spot on. Smooth with plenty of bottom end for their size. Thanks for your comments and advice about them during the winter!

Dave P: Marantz SR-7009

I have been purchasing products from Dave and AE since the early 90’s. Obviously everyone who works for Dave is very knowledgeable. It’s nice to go into a store and talk to someone who shares your passion about audio and music. Back in 2010 I purchased a Marantz receiver and had some difficulty with the set up. Dave promptly sent out Glenn to help. I quickly got the help I needed at no cost. Recently, I purchased another Marantz receiver. During set up there was an issue and once again Glenn was sent out and determined the unit was indeed defective. Again, no charge for this service call. He quickly swapped out the defective unit with a new one. Unfortunately, there was an Internet issue with the second unit. Since Marantz support could not address that issue I called Dave and once again he swapped out that defective unit with a new one. Now all is well.
I know you will not find this level of service with an online retailer or with any of the big retail chains. When I need to make a major electronics purchase, I will always return to Audio Emporium.

Bob M: Magnepan MG-20.7 Speakers

Hi Dave,
I really appreciate all the work that Glenn and Jacques did to get the great speakers set up. As you might have sensed, I had hesitation about investing that much in a speaker system, but they are great! Glenn and Jacques set them up perfectly. On nice nights, we usually sit out on the back porch listening to music- and even out there the speakers sound great. So thanks to all of you!

Randy B: Marantz NR-1605 Surround Receiver

Dave,

I’d like to thank you for insisting I buy the right piece of audio gear. The Marantz NR-1605 is exactly what I needed. I would have been disappointed with a lesser unit, and a lesser unit is what I had intended on buying when I walked into your store Saturday.

Your attention to my particular requirements is greatly appreciated. Over the years you’ve never steered me wrong and for that reason, I’ll keep coming back.